[MG] scientific method

Michael Allan mike at zelea.com
Fri Feb 24 09:23:54 EST 2012


Thanks for replying Russel,

The problem as you see it is: (A) political decisions are based on the
opinion of the few, which (B) is a poor basis for political decisions.

What if political decisions were instead based on the opinion of
everyone affected by them?  Would you still see a problem?

(Once we agree on the problem, we can look at where science fits in.)

-- 
Michael Allan

Toronto, +1 416-699-9528
http://zelea.com/


russell perera said:
>  Hi Michael, 
>  A. Political decisions are based on opinion -
> yes
>   B. Opinion is a poor basis for political
> decisions - yes
> 
> If so, what is your evidence for A?
> As we know all
> political decisions are made by hands of the few. They are so called
> politicians. Their opinions are political decisions. In democracy, we have just
> illusion of control. 
> Evidence for political
> decisions are based on opinion – How much money state print, foreign policy,
> State security, education , transportation etc. are all based on opinions. All
> political decisions are made by hand of the few politicians opinions. Our resources,
> security, environment etc. manage by few people’s opinions. We called that
> system politics.      
> Politics
> I think politic is a
> byproduct of two phenomenons.
> 1. Statism – Use of the
> state power to achieve goals is politics. Who is having the state power? As we
> everybody knows hands of the few. Why it is on the hand of few? Because it is
> establish intuition to maintain the power of few. How the state established?
> State arises as a result competing slave ownership. A large tribe with a slave
> owner is called country. In fact present day country is a tribe with a flag and
> anthem. State use our group behavior to accomplish state goal that maintain the
> establish intuitions on the expense of human freedom and development. 
> 2. Failure of economics
> – Economics is household management in Greek term. Historically we agricultural
> humans had scarcity on supply of the products. That maintains the price base
> economics such as capitalism, communism, socialism or fascism. However we
> industrial humans obtain the technological capacity to produce more than we consume.
> So growth and scarcity no longer exist to maintain the price of product, but
> establish political institutions, banks and co operations want artificially
> create scarcity and growth to maintain price structure. Politics is a byproduct
> of fail economics. When people’s needs are meet exchange, money, politics are
> obsolete. Educated people need no control. Even we need control we can have
> that control with minimum human opinion.    
> As I understand not
> only opinion is poor basis politics, politics itself limit our freedom and
> unnecessary phenomena for advance economic model such as resource based
> economy. So I hope direct democracy can break the power of establish
> institutions and people will have collective freedom to obtain resource based
> economy that politics and opinions are irrelevant.  
> I hope you will
> understand my view. If not please ask any questions. I will explain as much I can. 
> Thank
> you very much
> Russel
>  
> 
> ________________________________
>  From: Michael Allan <mike at zelea.com>
> To: start at metagovernment.org 
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 8:09:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [MG] scientific method
>  
> Hi Russel,
> 
> Before looking at your proposed solution, I want to understand the
> problem as you see it.  Is it the following?
> 
>   A. Political decisions are based on opinion
>   B. Opinion is a poor basis for political decisions
> 
> If so, what is your evidence for A?
> 
> -- 
> Michael Allan
> 
> Toronto, +1 416-699-9528
> http://zelea.com/




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